Huntington Ingalls Industries Inc HII
Q4 2012 Earnings Call Transcript
Transcript Call Date 02/27/2013

Operator: Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Fourth Quarter 2012 Huntington Ingalls Industries Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the prepared remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session.

I would now like to turn the presentation over to Mr. Dwayne Blake, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please proceed.

Dwayne Blake - VP, IR: Thank you, Stephanie. Good morning and welcome to the Huntington Ingalls Industries fourth quarter 2012 earnings conference call. With us today are Mike Petters, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Barb Niland, Corporate Vice President, Business Management and Chief Financial Officer.

As a reminder, statements made in today's call that are not historical fact are considered forward-looking statements and are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of Federal Securities Law. Actual results may differ. Please refer to our SEC filings for a description of some of the factors that may cause actual results to vary materially from anticipated results.

Also in the remarks today, Mike and Barb will refer to certain non-GAAP measures, including certain segment and adjusted financial measures. Reconciliations of these metrics to the comparable GAAP measures are included in the appendix of our earnings presentation that is posted on our website.

We plan to address the posted presentation slides during the call to supplement our comments. Please access our website at and click the Investor Relations link to view the presentation as well as our earnings release.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Mike. Mike?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: Thanks, Dwayne. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us on today's call. I am pleased to report Huntington Ingalls Industries results for the fourth quarter of 2012. Today we reported sales of $1.8 billion for the quarter and full year sales of $6.7 billion, both up slightly from last year. Diluted earnings per share was $0.98 for the quarter and $2.91 for the full year. Pension adjusted EPS was $1.30 for the quarter compared to $1.25 last year and for the year $3.95 compared to $4.15 in 2011; all 2011 comparative earnings and margin results, excluding non-cash goodwill impairment adjustment of $10 million in the fourth quarter and $290 million charge for the full year.

Segment operating performance was very strong. Fourth quarter adjusted segment operating margin was 7.7%, up 94 basis points from last year and for the year 6.8%, up 55 basis points from last year. The margin expansion was primarily driven by improved operating performance at Ingalls. Including $236 million of increased pension contributions in 2012, free cash flow for the year was $170 million compared to $331 million in 2011 and we ended the year with over $1 billion of cash on hand. We received $6 billion in new awards during 2012, including the detailed design and construction of LHA-7 Tripoli and LPD-27, contributing to a healthy backlog that was $15.5 billion at the end of the year.

The cash generation that has been realized over the past two years along with the confidence that we have in the long-term performance of our programs affirm our decision to proceed with a balanced cash deployment strategy that will return cash to shareholders, optimize our capital structure, and prudently pursue value-creating growth opportunities. One of these growth opportunities involves the potential redeployment of our Avondale facilities and more importantly our talented Avondale workforce into the commercial energy market. We are pursuing this opportunity, which would open up a new source of revenue with long-term growth potential, diversify our customer base, and enable us to retain the Avondale workforce and facilities.

Our announcement earlier this month that we are opening a business development office in Houston, Texas was the next step to help us evaluate and pursue engineering and construction opportunities in this market. The Avondale facility sits on over 260 acres on the Mississippi River, has world-class modular construction capabilities, features the largest floating dry dock in North America, and requires little or no additional investment to pursue this market.

As for returning cash to shareholders, our share repurchase program continues and we were pleased to announce our second quarterly cash dividend earlier this month.

Now to hit a few highlights of our major programs and please keep in mind that this assumes a reasonable resolution to the fiscal year 2013 budget. Let me begin with Ingalls, LPD-24 Arlington was delivered during the fourth quarter, which leaves only two remaining underperforming ships at Ingalls, LPD-25 and LHA-6. The delivery of LPD-24 and the continued progress on LPD-25 and LHA-6 represent key milestones on our path to achieving our 2015 operating margin goal.

LPD-25 Somerset, the last Navy ship under construction at the Avondale shipyard, successfully completed combat systems light-off and remains on schedule to deliver later this year, and at Pascagoula, we continue the ramp up of construction and make progress on LPD-26 John P. Murtha and LPD-27, the newest ship in the San Antonio class of LPDs. LHA-6 America remains on schedule for delivery later this year and we are making progress on LHA-7 Tripoli.

In the National Security Cutter program, NSC-4 and NSC-5 are under construction and we are under a long lead time material contract for NSC-6. We expect awards for the construction of NSC-6 and procurement of long lead time material for NSC-7 in 2013.

Construction of DDG's 113 and 114 in support of the DDG-51 program restart is progressing well. We expect the Navy to announce the next DDG-51 multiyear ship award of either nine or 10 ships split between ourselves and our competitor in 2013. On the DDG-1000 destroyer program, we delivered the composite deckhouse on DDG-1000 in the fourth quarter. Construction of the aft PVLS modules, hangar, and deckhouse for DDG 1001 is progressing and we are under contract for procurement of long lead material for similar work on the third ship in the class, DDG 1002.

At Avondale we continue to wind down Navy shipbuilding at the facility which we expect to complete by the end of the year. And although closure remains our baseline assumption, we are aggressively evaluating the possibility of keeping the facility open as I discussed earlier.

And now turning to Newport News; CVN 78 Ford was 90% structurally erected and 53% complete at the end of the fourth quarter and is on pace to launch this year. We continue efforts under our construction preparation contract to ramp up design, planning, long lead time material procurement and advanced construction on CVN 79 Kennedy, the next carrier in the Ford class, and anticipate having a construction contract in place later this year.

In submarines SSN-783 Minnesota remains on track to deliver this spring, 11 months ahead of schedule and we have completed our module work on the first boat of the third block, SSN-784 North Dakota with shipment of the bow section to electric boat in the fourth quarter. We expect a Block 4 contract award this year for nine or 10 additional submarines with construction beginning in 2014.

CVN-71 Roosevelt remains on track to complete its refueling and complex overhaul and redeliver midyear, and while the Navy has announced the delay of the RCOH for CVN 72 Lincoln, our team continues efforts on the ship at Naval Station Norfolk and will work to make as much progress as possible as efficiently as possible prior to Lincoln's arrival.

CVN-65 Enterprise is expected to enter the yard later this year for inactivation and the defueling of its eight nuclear reactors.

In summary, we are very pleased with where we are on all of our major programs and we remain confident in our ability to reach our anticipated 2015 targets. Newport News continues to generate steady and predictable operating margins and while we know that risk remained on the last two underperforming ships, I’m pleased with the progress we've made and we expect delivery of LPD-25 and LHA-6 later in the year to drive operating margin expansion at Ingalls.

Now regarding the uncertainty surrounding the defense budget and sequestration the prospect of a continuing resolution without shipbuilding provisions is our primary concern. I’ve said in the past that shipbuilding was more insulated from sequestration due to the long-term nature of our contracts in our backlog but we are not insulated from the impact of a continuing resolution. The failure to path, a defense appropriations build for 2013 has delayed the start of the refueling and complex overhaul of the USS Abraham Lincoln and could impact our DOD customer's ability to execute on new work. This will resolve in inefficiencies in the programs, increased cost, reduce learning curves, increase risk to an already fragile industrial base and as the Navy has communicated the fleet's operational readiness. Delaying the start of any shipbuilding or overhaul program invariably makes it more expensive because the work is precisely coordinated across numerous departments and with suppliers. All of that has to come together in a very synchronized way and when you start moving things around you upset that synchronization.

We have been very clear and consistent in our efforts to communicate the adverse impact of the current continuing resolution and the threat of an extended continuing resolution without shipbuilding provisions we have. We remain hopeful that the right decisions will be made and we continue to engage with our elected officials to ensure that they understand the implications of their potential decisions and ultimately the unnecessary additional cost to taxpayers.

Since it's been almost two years ago, I have emphasized the issues we face and why it is critical that we retire risk and replace underperforming contracts with new business that can perform at more typical shipbuilding margins. Although we still have two years before we reach our 2015 targets, I am extremely proud of what our team has accomplished thus far and I'm confident that we will achieve our goals. I may sound like a broken record, but the story remains unchanged. We're steadily retiring risk, we're working with our customer to get critical new business funded and under contract at both shipyards, we are streamlining our operations, we're executing well on new business, we've created and are reinforcing a culture based on safety, quality, cost and schedule, which drives affordability, and we have a management team that is highly focused on maximizing shareholder value.

Looking ahead, 2013 is the inflection point in our margin expansion story and we expect modest segment operating margin improvement with relatively flat sales. This will be driven by anticipated margin expansion at Ingalls combined with the stability and predictability at Newport News. I look forward to reporting continued progress as we deliver on the commitments we made to our shareholders when we spun off in 2011.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Barb Niland for some remarks on the financials. Barb?

Barbara A. Niland - CVP and CFO: Thanks, Mike, and good morning to everyone on the call. I'd like to briefly review our consolidated and segment results as disclosed in the press release, then wrap up with some comments on pension. Before I get into the details, all non-GAAP comparisons to 2011 exclude the non-cash goodwill adjustment in Q4 and the total goodwill impairment charge for 2011. We are also providing you pension adjusted operational results, including operating margin, operating income and diluted earnings per share to show operational performance without the impacts of the FAS/CAS adjustments.

Now if you turn to Slide 4 of the presentation, fourth quarter sales increased by 5% over the same period last year, primarily due to higher sales and aircraft carriers and amphibious assault ships. Fourth quarter GAAP operating income was $106 million, pension adjusted operating income was $131 million, up 11% over 2011. GAAP diluted earnings per share for the quarter was $0.98. Pension adjusted diluted earnings per share was $1.30, up 4% over 2011, driven by improved operating performance at Ingalls.

For the fourth quarter diluted earnings per share would be approximately $0.23 higher if you exclude the impact of the increased non-cash workers compensation expense related to the lower discount rate, which was $10 million for the quarter and the increase of $8 million in deferred state taxes in the quarter, which resulted from settlement of prior year deferred state taxes.

Turning to Slide 5, sales for the year increased 2% over the prior year as a result of higher volume on aircraft and surface combatant programs, partially offset by reduced volume on submarine and amphibious assault ships. GAAP operating income for the year was $358 million; pension adjusted operating income was $438 million, up 6.1% over 2011; GAAP diluted earnings per share was $2.91 for the full year; pension adjusted diluted earnings per share was $3.95 down from $4.15 in 2011. 2012 pension adjusted diluted earnings per share would be approximately $0.70 higher if you exclude the increased non-cash workers’ compensation expense related to the lower discount rate which was $34 million for the year. The $8 million non-cash tax matters agreement expense both of which we discussed on the third quarter call and the $8 million increase and deferred state taxes I referred to earlier for this year.

Cash provided by operating activities for the year $332 million a decline of $196 million from 2011, this decrease was primarily driven by $236 million of increased contributions to our qualified pension plans in 2012. Capital expenditures were $162 million or 2.4% of revenue, $35 million less than last year.

We began our share repurchase program in November and through the end of the year we purchased approximately 31,000 shares at a cost of $1.2 million and we ended the year with just over $1 billion cash balance.

Turning to Slide 6, Ingalls revenue for the quarter were $722 million up 6.8% from the same period in 2011 primarily driven by higher sales on LHA-7 Tripoli partially offset by lower sales following the deliveries of LPD-23 Anchorage in the third quarter 2012 and LPD-22 USS San Diego in the fourth quarter of 2011. Ingalls operating income for the quarter was $38 million compared with $15 million in the same period in 2011 and operating margin was 5.3% for the quarter up from 2.2% in the same period last year.

Turning to Slide 7, Ingalls revenue for the year were $2.8 billion relatively flat from 2011 with lower sales volume in amphibious assault program partially offset by higher sales volume in the NSC program. Ingalls' operating income was $97 million compared to $70 million in 2011, primarily due to overall improved performance partially offset by an increase in workers compensation expense due to the lower discount rate.

Turning to Slide 8, Newport News revenues for the quarter increased $44 million or 4.1% from last year, primarily driven by higher sales volume on Ford, the construction preparation on Kennedy and higher sales volume from the advanced planning on the Lincoln RCOH. For the year, Newport News revenues increased by $174 million or 4.6% from 2011 primarily driven by higher aircraft carrier volume and energy services revenue related to the maintenance of the Kesselring site.

Newport News operating income for the quarter was $102 million flat from the same period last year. For the year, Newport News operating income was $360 million compared to $342 million last year primarily driven by volume and favorable cumulative adjustments on CVN-65 Enterprise EDSRA and CVN-71 Roosevelt RCOH partially offset by the increased workers compensation expense due to the change in the (fleet). Newport News operating margin for the year was 9.1% unchanged from 2011.

If you'll turn to Slide 9, I'd like to make a few comments on our pension and postretirement benefit related assumptions. As always, remember that pension related numbers are subject to change based on year-end performance, discount rates and other measurement criteria. We are providing these estimates in ranges as we have many moving parts this year, including the bargaining agreement to be negotiated at Newport News this year and we will be re-measuring pension expense along with cash contributions upon the completion of negotiations. So in 2013 we estimate the FAS/CAS adjustment to be a net expense between $70 million and $100 million and we expect (all five) pension contributions to be between $270 million and $330 million, all of which is discretionary.

Our pension assumptions are based on a discount rate of 4.24% and expected long-term asset return of 7.5%. Other post-retirement benefit contributions for 2013 are expected to be $38 million. For 2013 we estimate that deferred state tax expense should be more in the $10 million range, net interest expense should be approximately $116 million, and our effective tax rate should be slightly below 35%. As in the past, we will be a large cash user in the first quarter and see that trend reverse over the remainder of the year and our capital expenditures for the year as a percent of revenue will be in the mid-2% to 3% range.

That wraps up my remarks, and with that I'll turn the call over to Dwayne for Q&A.

Dwayne Blake - VP, IR: Thanks Barb. As a reminder to everyone on the call, please limit yourself to one initial question and one follow-up, so we can get as many people through the queue as possible. Stefanie, I'll turn it over to you to manage the Q&A.

Transcript Call Date 02/27/2013

Operator: Carter Copeland, Barclays Capital.

Carter Copeland - Barclays Capital: Two questions, the first on Avondale, Mike, when you think about the decision process there, you said your base line assumption was still closure, but that you are exploring the opportunity that you laid out in the press release about a month ago. How should we think about how this process goes, you said there is little or no investment to pursue the opportunity you have outlined but obviously that business still has overhead and I wondered where you stand in terms of building the sort of new book of business and what sort of timeline you have given yourself to do that to determine that this opportunity is really viable. How should we think about that thought process from your end?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: Well, I think the first thing to recognize is that the most important asset that we have at Avondale is the workforce that’s there. And we are facing into a market that appears to have large demand for a highly skilled and qualified workforce. The projects in Louisiana and Texas that have already been announced and the ones that we know are on the books to be announced demand a workforce that’s larger than is in place in that region of the country today. And so we are being swept, we are being pulled into that, people are calling for our skilled workforce to be applied to that base. I think there is two elements of that that we have to think through and we will be working our through that mostly this year, is number one, how do we sustain the workforce to line up with the work opportunity, make sure how do we bridge from the Navy work that we are doing. If we just go and finish the Navy work, the workforce at Avondale will continue to ramp down to the end of this year when there will be no workforce left and we have to kind of understand when would that workforce be required and is that this year or is that early next year or how do you bridge through that and that's still unfolding in front of us, and so we working our way through that piece of it. I think the second part of it is to recognize that it really is about getting the Navy work out of the business, so that we can restructure the cost and be affordable. We may have the most skilled workforce in the area, but if they are not competitive, we won't be able to go very far in that marketplace and so both of those issues, how do we sustain the critical skills that we need, how do we demonstrate our affordability, those are the things that we are going to be working on – I mean we are working on it on and we'll be working on them through basically the next couple of quarters here this year.

Carter Copeland - Barclays Capital: One question on cash for Barb, I noticed despite the pension contribution which was pretty sizable, your conversion of net income was still very high at about 116%. As you look forward to next year obviously you've called out the pension contributions will be a little bit higher that it will be a bit of an incremental use and I noted that deferred taxes were a bit of a source this year. You said that the cash will be used early on and then step up over the course of a year, but as I put some of those pieces together, is it still likely that the cash conversion can be better than 100% of net income again next year or again in 2013?

Barbara A. Niland - CVP and CFO: So, I'm going to sound like the broken record of myself, but it all depends on the timing of the ship deliveries and the timing of the payments from the customer because we will be having big invoices after those deliveries. So I won't commit that there will be a 100% cash conversion, but I will commit over the long period of time, you can look at it that way and it works out.

Operator: Doug Harned, Sanford C. Bernstein.

Douglas Harned - Sanford C. Bernstein: I'm interested in understanding a little bit more about how you would see the CR and sequestration impact. And I know like you mentioned the Lincoln refueling delay. When you look at the CR, what are the things that you think could impact the company most in '13 and '14 and I'd ask the same about sequestration. Knowing that some things are under contract and you probably won't see a lot of impact but what are the ships that you are most concerned about?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: That's a great question Doug and we spend a lot of time on this. I have said from the beginning that sequestration by itself is not nearly the issue for us that it is for a lot of other folks in our space. Sequestration the that it's laid out is typically – it's going to be about today's cash expenditure, so the short of it is the way you get at today's cash expenditures by the government as you talk about flight hours and steaming hours and training dollars, which is not really in our – we have some business in that area at Continental and at AMSEC but it's not the principal source of our business. And from the beginning of this, we've been focused on the continuing resolution. If you want to think about where we are, it's the end of February we are operating under a continuing resolution for 2013, well the fiscal year 2013 started in October 1. And frankly, Dough, we go through this every year, you need an appropriations bill to allow your new programs to start on October 1, well this year October 1 of 2012 is actually March 27 of 2013 and we are about halfway through the process and we still don't have a budget for 2013. So, all of the things that were due to start in 2013 have not been allowed to start by the way the continuing resolution was structured. So, in one sense we look at March 27 as just October 1, except the dynamics and the interplay between sequestration – the delay of sequestration to March 1 and now the two of them are interacting and amongst themselves creates some level of uncertainty that March 27 is actually going to have an appropriations bill. And our concern and we actually have been saying this for some time now that our concern has been that if you just extend the CR the way that it is now many of our programs will be affected. One program that’s already been affected is been the destroyer program. The destroyer program was a bid that we put together last summer. My view is the Navy would have been able to evaluate those bids and make those awards before the end of last year but because we had a CR they have to push that off until the end of March or April, we can’t do a new start under the current law. If we get an extension to the CR than that award gets moved all the way out past October 1, 2014. Now let’s go down the list of all of the starts that we have to have in 2013 that we have been counting on and that we are working very hard for. We mentioned the Lincoln. The Lincoln was due to arrive here on February 14th. A few days before that we were notified that the Navy because of their uncertainty around what would happen on March 27th decided to postpone that and have the work continue at the naval station but not come into the shipyard. That's not the most efficient way to do business, but it is the way the Navy has chosen to do it under the restrictions that they have to operate under. Now we have a workforce that's working on the ship there, but they are not making nearly the progress that we would be making if we were here in the shipyard. Other work for 2013 that we would see if there had been a normal appropriations process, the start of the Kennedy, the detailed design and construction contract for the Kennedy is due to be awarded before the end of this fiscal year. The inactivation of the Enterprise is due to begin during this fiscal year. I have mentioned the destroyer award, I have mentioned the Lincoln. There is cost to complete effort on LHA-6 and LPD-25 and on – I'm sorry LHA-6 and on CVN-71. Now we find ourselves in a place where our list of things that we have to have in FY '13 is an exact copy of what the Navy's list is for what they have to have in 2013, and if you look at the testimony that the Chief of Naval Operations and the Vice Chief have given over the last six weeks, their list and our list are the same. And so we expect that March 27th will ultimately look like October 1st should have, and that's the way we are thinking about our business, but it's a pretty dynamic time right now and we're getting a lot of visitors to our business to understand what these impacts are.

Douglas Harned - Sanford C. Bernstein: If you were to look at the sequestering, I know that's not – you said it's not as big an impact. Where would you see that as being most important? I'm thinking if we go into a scenario where there was some relief in terms of the ability to reprogram funds on the CR, yet we have sequestration at some level going forward. Are there programs that you would think '13 and '14 that that would have a significant effect on?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: Doug, I don’t know how to put my arms around all of the potential variations that are here. The fundamental question is that we're halfway through 2013. We don’t have a budget for 2013. We actually are trying to figure out the 2014 budget legislatively, while we don’t have a budget for 2013. The degree of uncertainty is as high right now as I've ever seen it. We've operated under continuing resolutions in the past. Typically we've had continuing resolutions with anomalies that would allow us to go start programs on time. This hasn’t happened this time and this continuing resolutions has been exceptionally long and the prospect of an extension is what our concern is. How the numbers between what happens with the sequester and how that interplays with what the ultimate numbers that come out of a continuing resolutions or appropriations do, how those interact, there's probably as many variations as there are people with opinions. What I would say is that overall we believe that the fundamental issue of the fiscal challenges facing the country are strategic issues for Austin on the horizon in terms of the size of the Navy and the amount of support that we will be providing from a shipbuilding perspective. There maybe things like we talked about many times, there maybe things where a program might move from one year to another because of budget authority issues or outlay issues that’s we kind of typically deal with those kind of things as they come up, but the strategic issue of how big is our Navy, what kind of ships are going to be ended, I think that’s a 5 to 10 year timeframe and that’s really the longer-term strategic impact this.

Operator: Peter Skibitski, Drexel Hamilton.

Peter Skibitski - Drexel Hamilton: Mike, you mentioned 2013, you are expecting similar revenue to 2012 but following on Dough’s comments, it looks like the sequester is going to happen, is there any way to handicap the top line guidance you have given assuming that we do get a CR for the full-year or if we get a resolution at the end of March. Is there any way to add some color around that?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: Again I think there is just so many variables here relative to how this all plays out. If all you had was a sequester and then you had shipbuilding – all of the shipbuilding things happen the way that they happen, our continued discussion about our business, they have got flat revenues pretty much holds in place at this point as best we can understand it. The dynamics of what might happen in the particular harbors and how continental might be affected or how AMSEC might be affected. Those are very important businesses to us, but in terms of affecting the kind of numbers that you're talking about we were not as – we were much more focused on the shipbuilding starts that we have to get done.

Peter Skibitski - Drexel Hamilton: I guess one last one for Barb. Barb, you talked to 2013 pension, but for a lot of companies, they are projecting by 2014 or so pension to begin to turn positive for them. Is that something you've taken a look at sort of the out year pension perspective?

Barbara A. Niland - CVP and CFO: Yeah. Don't worry, we look at it all the time, but I'm not going to go out on a limb there because it will depend on what asset returns are and things like that, but in 2014 what you see is 25% I believe is the pension harmonization coming into play. So, that's increasing your CAS recovery over your FAS expense. So, it's starting to align more, but I don't want to go out on a limb and say, yeah, it's going to be positive because I've got to take a look at whatever the returns are and I don't have that crystal ball.

Peter Skibitski - Drexel Hamilton: Yeah. Just assuming you return to your mark, things get incrementally better, it sounds like?

Barbara A. Niland - CVP and CFO: They will be better than where they are today.

Operator: Jason Gursky, Citi.

Jonathan Raviv - Citigroup: It's actually Jon Raviv on for Jason today. Just jumping back to Avondale for a moment, you guys used to be really clear about trying to find the right partner to deal with the new customer outside of the Navy. I was wondering if you could add a little more color and maybe add some comfort on that front given the fact that this opportunity would be something new for you guys. How are you making sure that you are not overextending, so to speak?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: Sure. We said we needed four things actually to be successful here. We needed the Navy to support us, we needed the state to support us, we needed a sustainable marketplace, and we needed a good partnership or a good partner that understood the marketplace. What we've got is the Navy is definitely supportive of us pursuing this and the State has been more than forthcoming in trying to create an environment where we could be successful here. Our view of the marketplace is that this looks pretty sustainable at least for a while, and the fact that there is a demand for this and it's a pull into the marketplace instead of a push by us into something is a much – that's a much different perspective than we had a couple of years ago when we were first starting to think about what happens with Avondale. As far as the partnerships, what we found is that the folks that are in that business today are looking for good skilled workforce and they have been working with us to help us understand what the cost requirements would be, what the quality requirements would be, the schedule performance would need to be, the safety requirements that we would have to be able to perform to, and so we're getting good support from other players in the industry who are looking to us as maybe potential suppliers to them or maybe ultimately partners with them as they support this industry. So no, we're not charging into this with our blindfold on and just suggesting that we can do this better than anybody else. We're actually getting a lot of good constructive engagement from the folks who need to really make this be successful. And so we're treading carefully down that path of does this make sense. And as I said, it's going to come down to, are we going to be able to sustain the workforce and can we meet the competitive requirements that that industry will require.

Jonathan Raviv - Citigroup: And then just a quick follow-up on sequester. I know you said you guys are relatively insulated, but you do do some repair and some O&M type work and Navy guidance is basically frozen a lot of that. Are you not seeing impacts from that sorts of activities that the Navy has rolled out to the…?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: Certainly. I mean the Navy has made some major decisions about they are not deploying assets on their normal deployments, they provisionally announced availabilities for the third and fourth quarter that would not be performed. All of those things at this point – and let’s go one step further it's more of a CR impact but something as simple the Lincoln all of those things that none of that works being done the way that it ought to be done, so it's all becoming more inefficient. The challenge for us is that some of that you just have to wait and see how this plays out, because I think what really is going to happen here is that this sequester law will go into effect at the end of this week but then I think that the resolution of all of this issue is going to become apparent with the resolution of the CR at the end of March. I know there is a lot of pressure on the sequester itself, my view of it – my personal view, my view is that law will go into effect and that the energy will be forced on creating an appropriations bill or some kind of continuing resolution that actually creates a stable base for this to go forward in the next month. And so trying to speculate on how that’s all going to play out just chose not try to create any particular cases because we know whatever cases we create will be wrong.

Operator: Robert Spingarn, Credit Suisse.

Robert Spingarn - Credit Suisse: Mike, staying on the same topic I’d like to try to put a finer point on at least the dollars associated with the programs that we've been discussing and I think you have gone over them, but if I got this right you got or we were hoping for fiscal ‘13 money of around $600 million on Kennedy about $1.5 billion on Lincoln and I think about $900 million in O&M money on Enterprise. Then there is a couple of hundred million in prior year shipbuilding recovery. I think you mentioned CVN-71 et cetera. So, when I add all that up, that's about $3 billion plus. How much of that if – how much of that is in your '13 expectations, so that we can at least have some context if we get a full-year CR for example and there is no special writer for those funds or under what other circumstances might come up to your sequester et cetera? How much of that $3 billion was in your calculus for '13?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: Well, Rob, I would tell you if I go back to what we said before, we are assuming that all of this will work out. We are looking at March 27 as being October 1 and so I haven't added the numbers up the way that you have, but our view is that after March 27, we would expect that we would proceed on the path that we had laid out that these programs would start in accordance with the schedules that’s out there. If we find ourselves a month from now in a different place than that, then we will have to have a different discussion, but that's the path that we are on. It's encouraging to me that the Navy has identified the same priorities that we have and I think that our position and frankly the industry's position is pretty well understood. I was once told that short-term decisions in this business are political and long-term ones are economic. We are quite frankly in the middle of a big political decision right now that's going to play out over the next 30 days.

Robert Spingarn - Credit Suisse: Mike I think we all understand that there is no clear outlook here, but I also think the only way to talk about it is to at least know what you were expecting and when I think about that money and I understand that a good part of that $3 billion is '14, '15 and so forth from your P&L perspective. But is there any way to frame what the 2013 portion of that would be and then we can all wonder separately about whether or not it happens?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: I don’t know how to put my arms around that, Rob. I mean we're looking at a carrier contract that would be the Kennedy contract itself was multibillion dollar contract that we have been spending money on for a couple years in advance procurement. If the Navy were to decide or if we were to find ourselves in a place where we were not going to go to contract in 2013, the next question is, okay, how do you bridge the work that you're doing to the contract whenever it gets awarded. We've done that in the past. In fact that's how we did CVN-78. That contract was supposed to be done in 2006. We actually didn’t go to contract until 2008. We had two years of construction preparation there to bridge from the time when the contract was planned for to the time what we actually went to contract. That allowed the design to mature more, it allowed all of those things to happen, but the sequence of how all that plays out is something that is very difficult for us to predict. What I do know is that none of these programs, none of these programs are being talked about in terms of cancellation, so that all of this is going to happen. It's really a matter of when and how is it going to happen and that's what we're trying to work our way through. Our plan today is it will happen on time because that's the most efficient way for this work to proceed in our business and it is absolutely best way to be good stewards of the taxpayer dollars.

Robert Spingarn - Credit Suisse: And I wasn't trying to ask you how it would play out. I was merely trying to understand how those four programs fit, what they're worth in ‘13 but I guess it sounds like that’s just a complex answer. So, I will have something else instead. On Ingalls where you clearly been progressing on your margin plan, at what point do you get enough of those zero margin ships out the door and most of them are gone at this point, but you can give us some visibility into a consistent linear sequential progression in margins. Do we get to a point where you start to see 50 basis points a quarter or something like that?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: Our story two years ago is the same as it is today. We have two ships left to go that we expect to deliver this year. This year is a point of inflection for that business and that you will see earnings accelerate. I don't know that we will ever tell you that it's going to be a quarter-over-quarter slope on earnings for any part of our business. To quote my Chief Financial Officer, this business depends and is lumpy and so we’re headed to 9% from where we are today, this year we will probably look more – a little bit more like last year than it will look like next year but that’s because we’re getting those last two ships out. We need 14 and 15 to make the progress on the new work that we signed at Ingalls to get them to the point where they're mature enough to book at the normal rate and that’s what we are focused on.

Operator: Joe Nadol, JPMorgan.

Joseph Nadol - JPMorgan: Mike maybe I want to try to come at this from a slightly different angle which is people instead of dollars and really it seems that obviously a lot of uncertainty a lot of different moving parts, but where you're starting to get impacted now on a material programs. It really seems to be the Lincoln, but it's only really just started a couple weeks in. And so, if you – could you help us understand maybe if 37,000 employees in total in the company, how many employees – what was supposed to be or what is supposed to be the ramp up rate on labor, on that very labor-intensive program as we go through 2013?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: Well, the normal course of business and the synchronization that we talk about in this business is that as you finish the Roosevelt that workforce would transition to the Lincoln. And you know the Roosevelt is in its last few months and we'll be heading towards its redelivery and the people would normally just come-off of Roosevelt because you ramp down towards delivery and they would move on to the Lincoln and ramp back up there. Instead of ramping up inside the shipyard, we are starting to ramp up over at the naval base. I would say that what's happening to us right now is less about the people that are in the yard and it's more about our hiring rates and what our expectations are for the whole business? The reality is and I had a chance to tell the president this yesterday that over the next five years, we plan to invest nearly $1 billion in our corporate, in our Navy business across the whole corporation. We will hire more than 10,000 people and we will be investing $0.5 billion in the training of those folks and we are throttling that right now based on let's get some certainty about what these future programs and the timing of these programs will be. And I'd say that's probably where the first effect is, is what are we doing with our hiring rates right now. Now let's go – you've hypothesized, we have said that if the Lincoln doesn't come at the end of March or the beginning of April, we will be in a position there where we will have to start talking about layoffs, particularly because of that program. And how many and who all of that sort of stuff remains to be determined based on how the rest of the business plays out at that point. But yeah, we would be affected at that point and we have a couple of thousand folks work in that program today.

Joseph Nadol - JPMorgan: And then my second question is on the Virginia Class multiyear, could you just give us your latest and I may have missed it in your opening comments, but your latest on if this plays out the way you're hoping, which is during the month of March before the 27th we get either an Appropriations Bill or a CR with the anomalies that have been discussed, which I don’t think you used that term, but that's I think what I was reading into your comments. If you get that what your expectation would be? Do you still think you can get that multiyear signed by the end of 2013?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: We do. The Navy has actually made a pretty good case. It set aside the – I know it's hard to do for everybody, but if you just set aside the extraordinary budget process that's going on around sequester and the CR and everything and you can actually find a way to look at the regular budget process that's going on where the budget gets submitted, the Navy defends its budget, and the Congress weighs on priorities. That process has gotten us to a place where the Congress is interested in a tenth submarine, in that that's a none-ship block and they're interested in a tenth submarine and they're interested in a tenth destroyer and the nine-ship program that we have already bid on. Both of those to me are indications of how important the Navy is going forward strategically and I believe I don’t know whether those two platforms actually survived the extraordinary budget process, but I think that I believe we will get to a contract on Block 4 by the end of the year. I do, I’m pretty comfortable with that, assuming that we get through the next month politically.

Operator: Sam Pearlstein, Wells Fargo.

Sam Pearlstein - Wells Fargo Securities: Mike let me try and ask the question that you can’t answer. Something about the fourth quarter, if I look at the carrier you mentioned recall that the carrier volume has being higher than expected. Can you – and I think relative to everybody’s sales estimate, it did turn out to be higher? Is that more cost plus work that flow-through in terms of ours, is it long lead material is it just you are working ahead of schedule. What’s driving I guess that’s coming in ahead and related since you were up 2% in sales for 2012 when you say your long-term targets being relatively flattish, are we now talking about flattish off this higher level?

Barbara A. Niland - CVP and CFO: Okay I will take the one on the carrier increase in sales. It's just really is the cost type contract and it's just labor and material coming in, there is – we can’t really say, we are ahead of schedule in anyway, but we are progressing well on that program. So, there is some I think special going on there, it's just timing. So, as far as your question related to sales being flat, we are sticking with that story given what our expectations are in terms of the programs to get funded this year. Timing will drive potential impact this year, but overall I don't see any issues as long as those programs are funded with our long-term projection.

Sam Pearlstein - Wells Fargo Securities: Barb, can I ask you another question, just in terms of the balance sheet, in terms of some of the moving pieces, the shareholder equity declined from the third quarter and that accumulated loss and I guess is that all pension and then the deferred tax jump, is that all related to the pension contribution, just in terms of those moving pieces?

Barbara A. Niland - CVP and CFO: Okay. So, for your first question, the answer is yes, but for the tax, it's a combination of a lot of things on the tax. In the fourth quarter, most state taxes are done and you are doing it for the prior year and it's just an increased provision adjustment related to pre-spin returns. So, it isn't all pension on the tax side.

Operator: George Shapiro, Shapiro Research.

George Shapiro - Shapiro Research: Barb, in the fourth quarter, the Ingalls margin, and that's a better margin we've seen for probably five years, was there anything one time in there, like was there reversal of some of the reserves you took in the third quarter or is that kind of just what the margin was?

Barbara A. Niland - CVP and CFO: Just what the margin was.

George Shapiro - Shapiro Research: And so then what happens in 2013 as to why that 5.3 wouldn't be sustainable margin, because like the implication is if '13 looks like '12, you kind of take the average margin at Ingalls for '12, which is obviously lower than what you've reported in the fourth quarter?

Barbara A. Niland - CVP and CFO: Well, we didn't say it was or it wasn't. Mike did say we took a little like this year, but it will be leaning towards the 5.

George Shapiro - Shapiro Research: Then on the percentage of sales that were probably those two programs where you're talking zero margin now. Are we down to somewhere between 20% and 25% of the sales at Ingalls?

Barbara A. Niland - CVP and CFO: Less than 25%.

George Shapiro - Shapiro Research: Less than 25%. Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator: Myles Walton, Deutsche Bank.

Myles Walton - Deutsche Bank: Before Congress appropriations coming, I think the CNO was talking about the overall shipbuilding plan and kind of where it is today and where it would be if everything that's on the table actually played out like it's on the table. And you're talking about a baseline of 295 at this point ships by 2020, and you said maybe 30 ships lower if everything played out the way it is, 260, 265. Do you have a sense as to what comes out?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: No, but what I do know is you know what we've seen is there is strong support for carriers, there's strong support for submarines, and there's strong support for destroyers. There is also strong support for amphibs but by the normal course of business we were going to be entering a bit of a lull in the amphib production LPD-27, could have been the last LPD and LHA-7 we got under contract and LHA-8 is out there on the horizon. The Navy has a great desire for amphibs, the marines are looking for lift capability, but I've said this before, in my opinion it is despite all of that desire and demand that seems to be where the resources start to thin in my view. And that's one of our core businesses and that's a big thrust of our political engagement right now is around how do you sustain the AMSEC launch. We have got a really – we squared away the LPD program at Ingalls and we got a pretty warm production line down there right now. You have probably seen that we have come up with some creative ideas to use that haul for other mission for the Navy that would create some affordability relief if you will for the Navy and so we are going to continue to push that. But that’s kind of the way that I think about it Miles, is that the Navy’s priorities at the top of the list are the carriers and then submarines and then destroyers and the amphibs. That’s where our business sits and we are seeing this resource discussion kind of focusing on the amphib piece. Not really on the other parts.

Myles Walton - Deutsche Bank: And then the other question we talked about from a revenue perspective this year in sequestration delays but it's hard for us to see your contract protection relative to margin profit absorption and kind of the dynamics that can occur. Would you advise us to just think about the revenue risk at this point as opposed to any type of adverse drop through?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: Frankly, I hate to sound like a little bit more like a broken record, but this is top the handicap because the way that the sequester and the CR now are interplaying with each other and the fact that we are very much more exposed to the CR as opposed to the sequester makes – as we said before the work that we have under contract is probably not going to be terribly affected by the sequester and the work we have a contract doesn’t get really affected by the CR. So, in that sense we keep doing what we’re doing for the near-term and it keeps moving things the way that they've been moving. It's the signing of new contracts going forward that is really the big issue for us and that's really about what is this business look like in 2015 '16 and '17.

Myles Walton - Deutsche Bank: Then the last one, Mike I understand that the opportunity on Avondale and I think it make sense to explore in the near-term, I mean is it do you envision over the medium term that it still sits under the Huntington Ingalls umbrella or is this more of a taking it to from a neonatal stage to adolescence stage?

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: Well, we certainly don't believe that we can be competitive in – if the cost structure is a Navy cost structure. So, we'll have to find other ways to deal with creating a competitive cost structure for that business. And so I think you have an interesting perspective of this is the very beginning of this process and we will be exploring all kinds of alternatives there relative to how do we make that business in order to be successful, how we make it competitive.

Myles Walton - Deutsche Bank: Barb, what's the funding for the pension look like beyond '13 funding requirements for the pension? I know you said it was discretionary in '13, but beyond that?

Barbara A. Niland - CVP and CFO: We haven't given anything beyond that.

Myles Walton - Deutsche Bank: Where did the funding end up for the year?

Barbara A. Niland - CVP and CFO: 236 – I'm sorry for the 2012, minimum required was $64 million and we did $172 million of discretionary, so $267 million.

Myles Walton - Deutsche Bank: Sorry, I meant the funded status of the plan at the end of the year?

Barbara A. Niland - CVP and CFO: We continue to maintain a 90% funded based on called (Mat-21), but on a PPA basis.

Operator: Brian Ruttenbur, CRT Capital.

Brian Ruttenbur - CRT Capital: The last question, G&A, let's ask a real simple one. G&A in 2013 is going to be less than 2012 or more than 2012?

Barbara A. Niland - CVP and CFO: Well, that's a tough on to call. Pension expense drove G&A up from 2011 to 2012 and it will really depend on what my pension expense looks like and so I gave you ranges. So, it could be close. It could be a tiny bit higher.

Brian Ruttenbur - CRT Capital: Then as I look at it Mike, it seems like maintenance services as you put in there, services are at a bigger risk than products, is that the correct way to look at if we are going to take anything out assuming a CR and sequestration. Would that be taken it out of the product side or the services side?

Barbara A. Niland - CVP and CFO: I mean we talked – Mike talked about that AMSEC and CMSD are probably less inflated. So, it would be out of the services side for that.

C. Michael Petters - President and CEO: Thanks for your time today, folks. I think we've demonstrated that our crystal ball is no better than yours relative to the politics that are out there and the next month is going to be a pretty dynamic time. It will probably be a new story if not every day every hour between now and the end of March and we're – as you as know, we are very, very heavily engaged in that process to the best of our ability and the thing about our business is it shows well. There are folks. There is no misunderstanding about how important our programs are. The alignment we have with the Navy relative to the importance of getting the '13 budget, but things that they are prioritizing are the things they are – they are the things that we prioritize. And I think the President's visit to our shipyard in Newport News yesterday just demonstrates the priority that our business has and the alignment we have with our customer. We got a political process. We've got to work through over the next month and we'll be doing that, but our core business is staying – we are very pleased with where that is, the process – the progress that we've made in the last two years, but really over the last five years since Barb and I first went to Pascagoula. Our focus on safety and quality and cost and schedule continues to drive the performance of this business towards our goals in 2015. And where I sit today, I'm not backing off for that. I think that we'll fight our way thought the politics, but the execution and the risk retirement and the creation of value in this business and we are very focused on and we keep moving ahead on that. So, thanks for your engagement with us and thanks for your time today and we look forward to seeing you.

Operator: Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.